LuvWorkingAtHome, so far the nastiest person I have come across on YouTube, truly has a hate-fest happening on her channel. This woman goes on and on about “evil, wicked people,” but I think she projecteth too much.
In her latest video, Obama Special Olympics Joke Comes From Liberal Heart, Luv claims to see the true Barak Hussein Obama [she never refers to him any other way when speaking his name] and what is truly in his heart. Luv shows a short clip from The Tonight Show in which Obama talks about his practicing bowling at the White House and he scored a 129. He jokingly said he’s like the Special Olympics. Now, any sane person would interpret this statement as a put-down of himself and not the people who take part in the Special Olympics. I grant he shouldn’t have said it. He grants he shouldn’t have said it. However, people misspeak all the time. Give the man a little leeway. He’s under a lot of stress.
Luv’s opinion: “There you have it, America. Our president making fun of the Special Olympics. America, we deserve better than Barack Hussein Obama. [I guess she would prefer Bush Jr, who couldn’t speak in coherent sentences with or without a teleprompter.] This man, with his wicked self and his cigarette nicotine-stained lips, sit[s] there and make[s] fun of people with disabilities, and he is supposed to be the leader of our great country.”
Had Luv researched for the truth, instead of looking for more supposed evilness, she would have found the following [I took this from Fox News because I think Fox might be more acceptable to Luv, not that it will be since she seems to hate everything unless it’s from the Bible]:
“On his way back to Washington on Air Force One, Obama called the chairman of the Special Olympics, Tim Shriver, to say he was sorry -- even before the taped program aired late Thursday night.
"He expressed his disappointed and he apologized in a way that was very moving. He expressed that he did not intend to humiliate this population," Shriver said Friday on ABC's "Good Morning America." Obama, Shriver said, wants to have some Special Olympic athletes visit the White House to bowl or play basketball.”
American has just had eight long years of the most incompetent person to ever have become president. In Luv’s videos, I don’t see any complaints of any of Bush Jr’s misspeaks, English hatchet jobs, or grammar fumbles. Obama made one bad comment for which he apologized before it was even shown on the air. Give the man a break already. He’s under so much pressure to reverse the disaster that was Bush Jr. It was one misspoken sentence. This does not make him evil. This does not make him wicked. He did not speak from his heart against people with disabilities. Good grief, woman. Lighten up.
Here’s something that might help. Well, it might not help Luv, but it makes me smile:
Favorite Bushisms:
10) "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000
9) "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —Greater Nashua, N.H., Jan. 27, 2000
8) "I've been in the Bible every day since I've been the president." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Nov. 12, 2008
7) "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." —Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000
6) "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005
5) "Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004
4) "They misunderestimated me." —Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000
3) "Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?" —Florence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000 [This one has always been my personal favorite.]
2) "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
1) "There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
Sunday, March 22, 2009
A Logical Explanation of Noah's Flood
I know this blog is about YouTube videos, but it's my blog and I can add what I want!
I found a great theory (with pictures and everything) for the Biblical flood and the loss of Atlantis. It can be found on a blog by A-Deistic. Please see Minoan Eruption, Atlantis, Biblical Flood.
I found a great theory (with pictures and everything) for the Biblical flood and the loss of Atlantis. It can be found on a blog by A-Deistic. Please see Minoan Eruption, Atlantis, Biblical Flood.
Monday, March 16, 2009
Banned From the Garden of Eden
Okay, not really. But I have been banned from TheWoodsofJordan, whose video on homosexuality I discussed yesterday. Yesterday, I said I didn’t really want to trash him. Today is another day.
So, today he uploaded a video to all YouTube atheists. I watched it because I am, after all, one of YouTube’s atheists. In this video, he accused all atheists of really believing in God, but we prefer living our wicked lives and we just say we’re atheists. Now, if one really does believe in God and his wrath and his tendency to send sinners to a burning pit for all eternity, do you think that one would really deny He Who Must Be Adored At All Times? I don’t think so.
Jordan (let’s call him that ‘cause its shorter) then accused all of YouTube’s atheists of going around rating Christians’ videos with 1 star, without watching them, and then leaving hate-filled and angry comments on the videos. I’m not going to say that there aren’t some atheists who do this, but I know I’m not one of them. Jordan then, for all intents and purposes, dared atheists to NOT give him a 1-star rating. This video was really all about his ratings and that was all he was whining about when he responded to people’s comments. And this after just uploading another video in which he told everyone that nothing, and he meant nothing, should come before God. Well, clearly, dear Jordan has placed his ratings above God.
He also asked us why his videos would bother us. He is only providing his beliefs after all. Can’t we all just get along? (He actually said that.) Well, apparently, we can’t all just get along because I was banned for leaving a comment. It wasn’t hate-filled and it wasn’t angry. I admit I said I was getting somewhat pissed off with him, but that’s hardly angry. My comment was:
“The first of your videos I've ever watched was Homosexuality is a Sin and I am fairly sure that I didn't rate it at all. So, that theory of yours is shot. In fact, I thought you were a rather peaceful guy. Now, however, after continually ignoring my legitimate question regarding proof, I'm kind of pissed off with you, but I still haven't rated your videos. Now, you claim to know the minds of atheists better than we do. No, I don't know there is a God and neither do you; otherwise you'd prove it.”
To which he responded:
“It's a 3 star average, that means quite a few atheists have rated it 1 thus far, proving my point.”
So you see, he ignored everything else I said and focused on the rating, even though I had told him I had not rated his videos. Oh, God is going to be so angry at Jordan for putting his ratings above Him. Better pray extra-hard tonight, dear boy. You’re staring damnation in the face.
I then tried to post a response, which was:
"Did you even read what I wrote? This video was addressed to all YouTube atheists. That includes me. I said I have not rated your videos, so your point has been falsified. Not all atheists do what you are accusing them of. You ask how is speaking of your beliefs affecting me. Well, you've called me an abomination and a sinner, which I disagree with. You've also accused me of rating Christian videos and commenting out of hatred. You're wrong and you can't even acknowledge that."
But, alas, I had been banned.
What is it with these Christians that they can’t handle any kind of dissent or disagreement? That’s a rhetorical question, by the way. It seems fine to them that they can accuse others of being sinners, abominations, dishonest, hate-filled, etc. etc. But try to defend yourself and you’re banned. Something seems familiar about this situation. What could it be? Oh yeah. The Garden of Eden. They’re acting like God when Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Knowledge. Ya can’t get too smart, ya know, asking questions ‘n all. I’ve been unceremoniously chucked by a God-wannabe-thingie. Oh well, I’d rather have the knowledge. Apple anyone?
So, today he uploaded a video to all YouTube atheists. I watched it because I am, after all, one of YouTube’s atheists. In this video, he accused all atheists of really believing in God, but we prefer living our wicked lives and we just say we’re atheists. Now, if one really does believe in God and his wrath and his tendency to send sinners to a burning pit for all eternity, do you think that one would really deny He Who Must Be Adored At All Times? I don’t think so.
Jordan (let’s call him that ‘cause its shorter) then accused all of YouTube’s atheists of going around rating Christians’ videos with 1 star, without watching them, and then leaving hate-filled and angry comments on the videos. I’m not going to say that there aren’t some atheists who do this, but I know I’m not one of them. Jordan then, for all intents and purposes, dared atheists to NOT give him a 1-star rating. This video was really all about his ratings and that was all he was whining about when he responded to people’s comments. And this after just uploading another video in which he told everyone that nothing, and he meant nothing, should come before God. Well, clearly, dear Jordan has placed his ratings above God.
He also asked us why his videos would bother us. He is only providing his beliefs after all. Can’t we all just get along? (He actually said that.) Well, apparently, we can’t all just get along because I was banned for leaving a comment. It wasn’t hate-filled and it wasn’t angry. I admit I said I was getting somewhat pissed off with him, but that’s hardly angry. My comment was:
“The first of your videos I've ever watched was Homosexuality is a Sin and I am fairly sure that I didn't rate it at all. So, that theory of yours is shot. In fact, I thought you were a rather peaceful guy. Now, however, after continually ignoring my legitimate question regarding proof, I'm kind of pissed off with you, but I still haven't rated your videos. Now, you claim to know the minds of atheists better than we do. No, I don't know there is a God and neither do you; otherwise you'd prove it.”
To which he responded:
“It's a 3 star average, that means quite a few atheists have rated it 1 thus far, proving my point.”
So you see, he ignored everything else I said and focused on the rating, even though I had told him I had not rated his videos. Oh, God is going to be so angry at Jordan for putting his ratings above Him. Better pray extra-hard tonight, dear boy. You’re staring damnation in the face.
I then tried to post a response, which was:
"Did you even read what I wrote? This video was addressed to all YouTube atheists. That includes me. I said I have not rated your videos, so your point has been falsified. Not all atheists do what you are accusing them of. You ask how is speaking of your beliefs affecting me. Well, you've called me an abomination and a sinner, which I disagree with. You've also accused me of rating Christian videos and commenting out of hatred. You're wrong and you can't even acknowledge that."
But, alas, I had been banned.
What is it with these Christians that they can’t handle any kind of dissent or disagreement? That’s a rhetorical question, by the way. It seems fine to them that they can accuse others of being sinners, abominations, dishonest, hate-filled, etc. etc. But try to defend yourself and you’re banned. Something seems familiar about this situation. What could it be? Oh yeah. The Garden of Eden. They’re acting like God when Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Knowledge. Ya can’t get too smart, ya know, asking questions ‘n all. I’ve been unceremoniously chucked by a God-wannabe-thingie. Oh well, I’d rather have the knowledge. Apple anyone?
Darwin vs Adam & Eve
This is a great video which explains the real reason behind the creationists' fight against Darwin. Evolution = No Adam & Steve = No original sin = No need for the church. Enjoy!
Sunday, March 15, 2009
Homosexuality is a Sin. Honest - It Says So In A Very Old Book
I got involved in what passed for a discussion on a video entitled “Homosexuality is a Sin” by TheWoodsofJordan. I like this fellow’s name, by the way; it’s a peaceful sounding name. Not so “inyourface” as some Christian YouTube user names can be. He also seems like a peaceful individual, so I don’t want to trash him really. However, what happened in this discussion (or lack thereof) just calls out for me to write about it.
His video starts like this:
“I want to talk about a controversial issue in the Christian community and the world really, and that is homosexuality, and homosexuality is a sin. Now, many people out there are going to be quick to jump on this video and say, ‘You’re a bigot, you’re a racist, you’re homophobic,’ and it has nothing to do with that. God strictly says in the Bible that homosexuality is a sin and, in fact, it’s actually an abomination. If you go to Leviticus, chapter 18, and in verse 22, it says ‘You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.’ Clearly stated. If you just turn over a few pages in your Bible ‘til Leviticus, chapter 20, and read verse 13, it says, ‘If a man,’ and remember this is back in the Old Testament days when people were under the law and remember, we are no longer under the law. We are under the grace of Jesus Christ because he died for our sins. So, no longer are people treated this way, but nonetheless, it is still a sin. Leviticus 20:13 says, ‘If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.’ So that was back in the Old Testament under the law when God was a lot more strict and his wrath really showed upon people. Not to say that God still isn’t strict and God doesn’t pour out judgment upon people, because he does, but God decided that since no one could follow all of these laws and commandments and stuff, that He would have to send the ultimate sacrifice, which was Jesus Christ, to die for all of our sins.”
He then goes into a couple of verses in the New Testament, but I won’t bore you with those. I think you’ve got the general idea that the Bible claims that homosexuality is an abomination and a sin. So, here’s my comment posted on his video:
“Before you can convince anyone of anything by quoting from the bible, you're going to have to do 2 things:
1. Prove that God exists.
2. Prove that the bible is the word of God.
Until you can prove those two things, then your quotations are meaningless.”
Within a couple of minutes, I get a response, not from TheWoodsofJordan, but someone with the oxymoronic name of VersatileMind4Christ, who says:
“LOL You're on the wrong video then. Off topic.
Before you comment on this video. You must realize this video is targeted to people who believe in the Bible, people in the Christian community OR ANYONE who is curious to learn about the Bible.
The purpose of this video is to provide explanations of the topic of homosexuality in context to the doctrine of the Bible.
In the beginning of the video he CLEARLY says "Christian Community" and the world. LOL”
My mind said “Huh? What did she (VersatileMind) hear that I missed?” So I listened to the beginning again. He said exactly what I’ve quoted above and there is no way I can interpret that to mean his target audience was only the Christian community or anyone curious about the Bible. Besides, I thought my comment did fall within curiosity about the Bible. So I responded with:
“He says he wants to talk about a controversial issue in the Christian community and the world. How does that leave me out?”
Oxymoronic counters with:
“Exactly. If part of his target market or demographic is the Christian community. why would he have to PROVE God's existence?
Now on the "world" aspect, this video provides an explanation on homosexuality in the Bible.
It is not to prove God, it is a simple discussion. You commented a bit rude and off topic.
If you wanted a video to discuss God's existence then you need to go to a video from a youtuber on that subject.”
Well, to make this easier, here is the rest of the conversation:
orientedx4
Why is that? If someone is going to call people I care about sinners and abominations, I have the right to comment.
VersatileMind4Christ
Yes you do have a right to voice your opinion. It is the manner you did it that was a bit disrespectful lol..you distracted from the point of the video.
Do you understand what an abomination is?
This is always misunderstood.
orientedx4
Please don't speak down to me. I am not stupid. Nor am I disrespectful. In my opinion, all of your "lol's" are disrespectful.
VersatileMind4Christ
Okay. Sorry for the "lols" I acknowledge that.
On such a touchy subject people are quick to show hate towards someone simply sharing their views.
The same freedom you have to voice your opinion to others, so does he to express that homosexuality is a sin.
orientedx4
"people are quick to show hate"
Are you referring to yourself or to me with this statement? I am not feeling any hatred, so if you are referring to me, you need to stop assuming.
I agree that people have freedom to voice their opinions, but that doesn't mean that others don't have the right to voice their opposition to those opinions. That is all I'm doing. I'm not hating anyone.
VersatileMind4Christ
You're MISSING the complete purpose of this conversation. Please read my comments again.
IF you're going voice opposition, do it ON TOPIC and not rude.
orientedx4
Again, I'm not being rude. Why is it off topic to ask someone to prove that the source of their opinions is legit? In my mind, that is totally on topic. You may not like it, but it is on topic.
VersatileMind4Christ
Again...If you wanted a video to discuss God's existence then you need to go to a video from a youtuber on that subject.
Thanks for keeping this respectful. I'm done here.
orientedx4
I'm sorry that you feel you're done here. I will add, however, that I was not looking for any particular subject. I simply came upon this video and watched it. I then questioned the validity of this user's sources. He's making the claims. I would like some proof of his claims.
TheWoodsofJordan
You are asking us to prove God. This video isn't about proving God. It's about how homosexuality is a sin. If you are going to discuss something, make sure it relates to the video at least.
orientedx4
I'm sorry, but I don't see how my questions are not related to the video. Your contention is that homosexuality is a sin and you're providing God and the bible as the sources of your opinions. I'm asking you to provide proof that your sources are legit. If these sources cannot be proven as legit, then why should I believe that homosexuality is a sin? I'm not trying to be argumentative for argument's sake. I'm trying to understand the legitimacy of your sources.
VersatileMind4Christ
Thank you Jordan. My point exactly! LOL
This video isn't about proving God. It's not that difficult to understand.
TheWoodsofJordan
Just the typically argument. I am really surprised, not as much hatred as I thought.
VersatileMind4Christ
Also "people" refers to others in general. If I wanted to say YOU directly, I would have.
So I wasn't assuming and I wasn't talking about you directly.
orientedx4
But you were responding directly to me, so why all of a sudden refer to people in general?
orientedx4
Jordan, this is your wording in the description box:
This video is talking about homosexuality and how it is a sin in God's eyes. I do not hate homosexuals, but they need to recognize that what they are doing is a sin, and that they were not born this way but rather chose to be this way.
So I'm asking - why should homosexuals recognize what you're claiming if you will not back up your claims? Why did you make the video and the above statements if you refuse to discuss it? Back up your claims.
_____________________________________________________
This is somewhat of a long blog entry, but in case anyone is reading this, I wanted you to see the weirdness of the comments. So far, TheWoodsofJordan has not acknowledged by questions further. What I don’t understand is why don’t they get it? Why don’t they see that asking for proof of the legitimacy of the sources used is quite on topic? I know that they can’t provide the proof, but asking for it is still on topic. I guess they expect that homosexuals are just supposed to watch this video and say, “Yep, you’re right. I’ve been living a sinful life. I’m giving it all up because that 2000-year-old book that you said is the word of God says so. Good enough for me.”
Pardon me for using my brain to think and question! Is that a sin as well? I wonder sometimes because using their brains doesn’t seem to be something that these extra-religious people do.
His video starts like this:
“I want to talk about a controversial issue in the Christian community and the world really, and that is homosexuality, and homosexuality is a sin. Now, many people out there are going to be quick to jump on this video and say, ‘You’re a bigot, you’re a racist, you’re homophobic,’ and it has nothing to do with that. God strictly says in the Bible that homosexuality is a sin and, in fact, it’s actually an abomination. If you go to Leviticus, chapter 18, and in verse 22, it says ‘You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.’ Clearly stated. If you just turn over a few pages in your Bible ‘til Leviticus, chapter 20, and read verse 13, it says, ‘If a man,’ and remember this is back in the Old Testament days when people were under the law and remember, we are no longer under the law. We are under the grace of Jesus Christ because he died for our sins. So, no longer are people treated this way, but nonetheless, it is still a sin. Leviticus 20:13 says, ‘If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.’ So that was back in the Old Testament under the law when God was a lot more strict and his wrath really showed upon people. Not to say that God still isn’t strict and God doesn’t pour out judgment upon people, because he does, but God decided that since no one could follow all of these laws and commandments and stuff, that He would have to send the ultimate sacrifice, which was Jesus Christ, to die for all of our sins.”
He then goes into a couple of verses in the New Testament, but I won’t bore you with those. I think you’ve got the general idea that the Bible claims that homosexuality is an abomination and a sin. So, here’s my comment posted on his video:
“Before you can convince anyone of anything by quoting from the bible, you're going to have to do 2 things:
1. Prove that God exists.
2. Prove that the bible is the word of God.
Until you can prove those two things, then your quotations are meaningless.”
Within a couple of minutes, I get a response, not from TheWoodsofJordan, but someone with the oxymoronic name of VersatileMind4Christ, who says:
“LOL You're on the wrong video then. Off topic.
Before you comment on this video. You must realize this video is targeted to people who believe in the Bible, people in the Christian community OR ANYONE who is curious to learn about the Bible.
The purpose of this video is to provide explanations of the topic of homosexuality in context to the doctrine of the Bible.
In the beginning of the video he CLEARLY says "Christian Community" and the world. LOL”
My mind said “Huh? What did she (VersatileMind) hear that I missed?” So I listened to the beginning again. He said exactly what I’ve quoted above and there is no way I can interpret that to mean his target audience was only the Christian community or anyone curious about the Bible. Besides, I thought my comment did fall within curiosity about the Bible. So I responded with:
“He says he wants to talk about a controversial issue in the Christian community and the world. How does that leave me out?”
Oxymoronic counters with:
“Exactly. If part of his target market or demographic is the Christian community. why would he have to PROVE God's existence?
Now on the "world" aspect, this video provides an explanation on homosexuality in the Bible.
It is not to prove God, it is a simple discussion. You commented a bit rude and off topic.
If you wanted a video to discuss God's existence then you need to go to a video from a youtuber on that subject.”
Well, to make this easier, here is the rest of the conversation:
orientedx4
Why is that? If someone is going to call people I care about sinners and abominations, I have the right to comment.
VersatileMind4Christ
Yes you do have a right to voice your opinion. It is the manner you did it that was a bit disrespectful lol..you distracted from the point of the video.
Do you understand what an abomination is?
This is always misunderstood.
orientedx4
Please don't speak down to me. I am not stupid. Nor am I disrespectful. In my opinion, all of your "lol's" are disrespectful.
VersatileMind4Christ
Okay. Sorry for the "lols" I acknowledge that.
On such a touchy subject people are quick to show hate towards someone simply sharing their views.
The same freedom you have to voice your opinion to others, so does he to express that homosexuality is a sin.
orientedx4
"people are quick to show hate"
Are you referring to yourself or to me with this statement? I am not feeling any hatred, so if you are referring to me, you need to stop assuming.
I agree that people have freedom to voice their opinions, but that doesn't mean that others don't have the right to voice their opposition to those opinions. That is all I'm doing. I'm not hating anyone.
VersatileMind4Christ
You're MISSING the complete purpose of this conversation. Please read my comments again.
IF you're going voice opposition, do it ON TOPIC and not rude.
orientedx4
Again, I'm not being rude. Why is it off topic to ask someone to prove that the source of their opinions is legit? In my mind, that is totally on topic. You may not like it, but it is on topic.
VersatileMind4Christ
Again...If you wanted a video to discuss God's existence then you need to go to a video from a youtuber on that subject.
Thanks for keeping this respectful. I'm done here.
orientedx4
I'm sorry that you feel you're done here. I will add, however, that I was not looking for any particular subject. I simply came upon this video and watched it. I then questioned the validity of this user's sources. He's making the claims. I would like some proof of his claims.
TheWoodsofJordan
You are asking us to prove God. This video isn't about proving God. It's about how homosexuality is a sin. If you are going to discuss something, make sure it relates to the video at least.
orientedx4
I'm sorry, but I don't see how my questions are not related to the video. Your contention is that homosexuality is a sin and you're providing God and the bible as the sources of your opinions. I'm asking you to provide proof that your sources are legit. If these sources cannot be proven as legit, then why should I believe that homosexuality is a sin? I'm not trying to be argumentative for argument's sake. I'm trying to understand the legitimacy of your sources.
VersatileMind4Christ
Thank you Jordan. My point exactly! LOL
This video isn't about proving God. It's not that difficult to understand.
TheWoodsofJordan
Just the typically argument. I am really surprised, not as much hatred as I thought.
VersatileMind4Christ
Also "people" refers to others in general. If I wanted to say YOU directly, I would have.
So I wasn't assuming and I wasn't talking about you directly.
orientedx4
But you were responding directly to me, so why all of a sudden refer to people in general?
orientedx4
Jordan, this is your wording in the description box:
This video is talking about homosexuality and how it is a sin in God's eyes. I do not hate homosexuals, but they need to recognize that what they are doing is a sin, and that they were not born this way but rather chose to be this way.
So I'm asking - why should homosexuals recognize what you're claiming if you will not back up your claims? Why did you make the video and the above statements if you refuse to discuss it? Back up your claims.
_____________________________________________________
This is somewhat of a long blog entry, but in case anyone is reading this, I wanted you to see the weirdness of the comments. So far, TheWoodsofJordan has not acknowledged by questions further. What I don’t understand is why don’t they get it? Why don’t they see that asking for proof of the legitimacy of the sources used is quite on topic? I know that they can’t provide the proof, but asking for it is still on topic. I guess they expect that homosexuals are just supposed to watch this video and say, “Yep, you’re right. I’ve been living a sinful life. I’m giving it all up because that 2000-year-old book that you said is the word of God says so. Good enough for me.”
Pardon me for using my brain to think and question! Is that a sin as well? I wonder sometimes because using their brains doesn’t seem to be something that these extra-religious people do.
Sunday, March 1, 2009
Does God Love Everyone? BibleOrTraditions
I came across this video on bibleortraditions' channel on YouTube. I’ve since discovered that it can also be found on other channels, but since I found it on bibleortraditions’ channel first, I am basing this entry on my experience there. On this particular channel, the comments section is not disabled, but it is moderated. Needless to say, my comment was not accepted. Okay, so here we go.
Does God Love Everyone is a video of a supposed theological scholar answering the question posed in the video’s title. His first bitch is that the question is the totally wrong thing to ask. Dr. Robert A. Morey claims the question is “very shallow, very inept, not really thought through.” He claims the question should be “Does the bible anywhere teach that God loves every human being from Adam to the last human being ever born or does the bible teach that God hates some people, as well as loves some other people?” and “Are we ever told in the bible that God loves anybody? I mean why assume that he should or not. Matter of fact, looking around, I would think God should hate everybody. If he loves anybody, that’s a shock. No one deserves the love of God. Nobody.”
Then he opens his bible to Romans 9:13 “Jacob I loved,. . .” So, apparently the bible does state that God loved a specific person. Now, does he state that he hates anyone? Yes, same verse “. . . but Esau I hated.” Dr. Morey then rationalizes that there are two classes of people. One is worthy of God’s love and one worthy of his hate. Well, isn’t that special!
He then moves on to the Gospel of John and Morey states, “We go to Jesus Christ, who, of course, was the son of love.” [I found that last bit extremely ironic.] John 3:36 “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God continues to abide on him.” This, you see, is the proof for two classes of people. There are those who God is no longer angry with because they believe in Jesus, but the non-believers are exposed to God’s anger and wrath. Morey continues, “Right from the book of Genesis all the way through the book of Revelation, you have two groups of people. God is angry with sinners.” My question? Why did God create sin if he wanted us to be so darned perfect in order to be loved? He set us up to fail and then hates us for doing so. Nice guy, this God!
There’s more to the video than this, but I can’t stomach listening to it any further, and it’s not really all that important anyway. My unacceptable comment was the following:
At best, the bible is hearsay, which any clear thinking person would never accept as truth. At worst, the bible is a book of collective myths, which any clear thinking person would never accept as truth.
I said this because Dr. Morey’s quotes are just that – they are either hearsay (Romans was written by Paul somewhere around 51 A.D. and the Gospel of John was written decades after that) or they are simply folklore. In the 21st Century, don’t you think we should be basing our lives on reality rather than hearsay or folklore? Is it not time we got over the ignorant explanations of ignorant people?
Does God Love Everyone is a video of a supposed theological scholar answering the question posed in the video’s title. His first bitch is that the question is the totally wrong thing to ask. Dr. Robert A. Morey claims the question is “very shallow, very inept, not really thought through.” He claims the question should be “Does the bible anywhere teach that God loves every human being from Adam to the last human being ever born or does the bible teach that God hates some people, as well as loves some other people?” and “Are we ever told in the bible that God loves anybody? I mean why assume that he should or not. Matter of fact, looking around, I would think God should hate everybody. If he loves anybody, that’s a shock. No one deserves the love of God. Nobody.”
Then he opens his bible to Romans 9:13 “Jacob I loved,. . .” So, apparently the bible does state that God loved a specific person. Now, does he state that he hates anyone? Yes, same verse “. . . but Esau I hated.” Dr. Morey then rationalizes that there are two classes of people. One is worthy of God’s love and one worthy of his hate. Well, isn’t that special!
He then moves on to the Gospel of John and Morey states, “We go to Jesus Christ, who, of course, was the son of love.” [I found that last bit extremely ironic.] John 3:36 “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God continues to abide on him.” This, you see, is the proof for two classes of people. There are those who God is no longer angry with because they believe in Jesus, but the non-believers are exposed to God’s anger and wrath. Morey continues, “Right from the book of Genesis all the way through the book of Revelation, you have two groups of people. God is angry with sinners.” My question? Why did God create sin if he wanted us to be so darned perfect in order to be loved? He set us up to fail and then hates us for doing so. Nice guy, this God!
There’s more to the video than this, but I can’t stomach listening to it any further, and it’s not really all that important anyway. My unacceptable comment was the following:
At best, the bible is hearsay, which any clear thinking person would never accept as truth. At worst, the bible is a book of collective myths, which any clear thinking person would never accept as truth.
I said this because Dr. Morey’s quotes are just that – they are either hearsay (Romans was written by Paul somewhere around 51 A.D. and the Gospel of John was written decades after that) or they are simply folklore. In the 21st Century, don’t you think we should be basing our lives on reality rather than hearsay or folklore? Is it not time we got over the ignorant explanations of ignorant people?
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