Showing posts with label Jesus. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jesus. Show all posts

Thursday, July 16, 2009

Philosophical Question For Today. . .

If a tree fell on TheWoodsofJordan, would he make a sound?

Let me give you a hint. He wouldn't understand this question.

The answer, of course, is no, he wouldn't make a sound. If it's not in the Bible, Jordan wouldn't know what sound to make.

TheWoodsofJordan is my YouTube toyboy. Not that kind of toyboy. My goodness, he would never allow that. He's saving himself for marriage. Heck, he doesn't even wank any more! No, Jordan is my toy to argue with when my brain is busy with something else. One doesn't need a brain to debate Jordan because he couldn't argue himself out of a wet paper Bible.

His arguments consist of repeating the same Bible verses over and over again. When he tries to think for himself, the arguments are even sillier than the Bible verses. He uses the Bible to argue that the Bible is true. He uses the Bible to argue that the Jesus story is true. He uses the Bible to argue that God is real. Circular reasoning anyone? When someone disagrees with him, well, that's because we're not true Christians and only true Christians can understand the Bible. It's over the heads of the rest of us apparently.

Jordan's latest religious phase is Calvinism. He's gone through many phases since I've been watching his videos. However, this is the weirdest one yet. He is seriously into evangelizing. He plans on making that his life's work. However, he truly believes in predestination. As he explains it, God has predestined His select people lucky enough to be saved by His Holy Wrathfulness and the rest of us will be sent to hell for eternity. We can do nothing to get ourselves saved. I have tried, along with other people, I've noticed, to explain to Jordan that predestination makes his evangelism job redundant; however, Jordan just doesn't get it.

He claims that he needs to continue to evangelize because he doesn't know who the "elect" are. But, it doesn't matter whether or not he knows. God knows and that's all that counts. God is supposed to be in charge of making sure that His elect will find their way to heaven, whether or not they have heard the wonderous preachings of TheWoodsofJordan. Hence, Pastor Jordan is out of a job. I think that, whenever he figures this out for himself, he'll give up the predestination lark. Of course, since Jordan doesn't think for himself, we'll have to wait until he reads it in another Christian document somewhere. And until that happens. . . .

Will we be able to see the forest for TheWoodsofJordan? :-)

Sunday, March 1, 2009

Does God Love Everyone? BibleOrTraditions

I came across this video on bibleortraditions' channel on YouTube. I’ve since discovered that it can also be found on other channels, but since I found it on bibleortraditions’ channel first, I am basing this entry on my experience there. On this particular channel, the comments section is not disabled, but it is moderated. Needless to say, my comment was not accepted. Okay, so here we go.

Does God Love Everyone is a video of a supposed theological scholar answering the question posed in the video’s title. His first bitch is that the question is the totally wrong thing to ask. Dr. Robert A. Morey claims the question is “very shallow, very inept, not really thought through.” He claims the question should be “Does the bible anywhere teach that God loves every human being from Adam to the last human being ever born or does the bible teach that God hates some people, as well as loves some other people?” and “Are we ever told in the bible that God loves anybody? I mean why assume that he should or not. Matter of fact, looking around, I would think God should hate everybody. If he loves anybody, that’s a shock. No one deserves the love of God. Nobody.”

Then he opens his bible to Romans 9:13 “Jacob I loved,. . .” So, apparently the bible does state that God loved a specific person. Now, does he state that he hates anyone? Yes, same verse “. . . but Esau I hated.” Dr. Morey then rationalizes that there are two classes of people. One is worthy of God’s love and one worthy of his hate. Well, isn’t that special!

He then moves on to the Gospel of John and Morey states, “We go to Jesus Christ, who, of course, was the son of love.” [I found that last bit extremely ironic.] John 3:36 “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God continues to abide on him.” This, you see, is the proof for two classes of people. There are those who God is no longer angry with because they believe in Jesus, but the non-believers are exposed to God’s anger and wrath. Morey continues, “Right from the book of Genesis all the way through the book of Revelation, you have two groups of people. God is angry with sinners.” My question? Why did God create sin if he wanted us to be so darned perfect in order to be loved? He set us up to fail and then hates us for doing so. Nice guy, this God!

There’s more to the video than this, but I can’t stomach listening to it any further, and it’s not really all that important anyway. My unacceptable comment was the following:

At best, the bible is hearsay, which any clear thinking person would never accept as truth. At worst, the bible is a book of collective myths, which any clear thinking person would never accept as truth.

I said this because Dr. Morey’s quotes are just that – they are either hearsay (Romans was written by Paul somewhere around 51 A.D. and the Gospel of John was written decades after that) or they are simply folklore. In the 21st Century, don’t you think we should be basing our lives on reality rather than hearsay or folklore? Is it not time we got over the ignorant explanations of ignorant people?